Torbay Grave Yard Protest Group

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Herald Express Reports

 

Joy as parents win fight for cctv cameras
1 Feb : Parents of children whose graves were vandalised in Torquay cemetery have won their fight to have a CCTV network installed to prevent further outrages.

 

Grave agony parents in cemetery CCTV walk
24 Nov : Parents whose children's graves were desecrated by vandals in Torquay will be walking tomorrow to raise funds for cemetery CCTV.

 

'We have done nothing wrong'
27 Feb : Torbay Council is confident it will not find itself in the same position as another council which is facing a £20,000 repair bill after making a grave mistake.

 

Leicester City council flattened 199 headstones and monuments without seeking permission from relatives of the dead.

An ecclesiastical judge has now hailed the action "disrespectful" and ruled it an "over-reaction to health and safety".

Dr James Behrens, the Chancellor of the Diocese of Leicester, ordered the council to pay a repair bill of more than £20,000.

 

'Double standards' blast over graves
30 Jul : Angry families with loved ones buried at Torquay Cemetery have accused Torbay Council of double standards after officials confirmed there would be no restrictions on commemoration of graves at Paignton Cemetery.

 

Petition against ludicrous proposal
5 Feb : I read with dismay and disgust the article regarding the plight of the Cowsills - the couple who tragically lost their only daughter at the age of 28 to leukaemia. It both saddened and angered me that Cllr Colin Charlwood is backing the proposal to stop mourners personalising the small area of their loved one's grave. After all, as Mr Cowsill said, they are not encroaching beyond the boundary of their daughter's grave.

 

Couple deserve thanks
2 Feb : What a sad state of affairs for Mr and Mrs Cowsill (HE, January 27). Their daughter's grave is a picture and a credit to them. Surely, the council should be thanking these people and those like them for helping to keep cemeteries tidy and pretty. What is it that's wrong with Torbay councillors, do they do these things because they can?

 

Plea for cemetery tribute to daughter
27 Jan : A Paignton couple whose 28-year-old daughter died 14 months ago are horrified that Torbay Council may take legal action against people who personalise the graves of loved ones.

 

Graves battle residents call council's bluff
22 Jan : People fighting Torbay Council's ban on decorated graves are prepared to put the matter in solicitors' hands.

 

Cemetery users face legal threat in gravestone row
3 Jan : The threat of legal action is the latest move in the battle over cemeteries in a Westcountry resort. Action may now be taken against people who take up too much space planting flowers and placing ornaments around gravestones in Torbay's council-run cemeteries.

 

Legal threat to grave families
1 Jan : The threat of legal action is the latest move in the battle of Torbay's cemeteries.

 

Negative approach hits staff morale
16 Dec : On November 27 you published a letter from a Mr Peacock, in which he complained about the cleanliness of the streets, parks and cemetery.

 

Tell us how to run service on cemeteries
14 Dec : Torbay's cemeteries are to come under the spotlight again as the council calls for residents' views on how the grounds should be run.

 

Future of cemeteries
26 Nov : There aren't many subjects more sensitive than cemeteries and their rules and upkeep.

 

Council graves may go private
26 Nov: Torbay's trouble-hit cemeteries could be taken over by a private operator.

 

Call For Views On Cemetery Plans
A new environmental initiative aimed at encouraging people in the local community to get involved (Do it yourself even though the council is still being paid to do it?) in projects relating to Torquay Cemetery.

 

Cemetery Lament
Another unhappy cemetery user

 

Headstones Posed Little Risk
Councillor Colin Charlwood has said that many of the headstones have been found to be unsafe due to incorrect installation!

 

Protest Call For Greater Respect

Latest Protest

 

So Why Not Lock Cemetery At Night?

Headstone vandalized.

 

Grave 'Split' Could Go To Claims Court

Pensioner has £400 bill to repair damaged headstone.

 

Council Claims Backing Over Cemetery Row

So why has no one ever come forward to say they are happy with he state of the cemetery?

 

'Unsafe' Gravestones Laid On The Ground

Stones not repaired are being laid down.

 

Laid To Rest ... Twice

More dangerous down than up?

 

Campaigners To Stage Cemetery Gates Protest

Protest at cemetery.

 

Cemetery Work Is Under Review

More staff for cemetery

 

Protest Seeks Action On Untidy Churchyard

Do campaigners have to clean up themselves?

 

Families' Shock At Warning Notices

300 Headstones unsafe.

 

Danger?

How many people crushed to death by toppling 2ft stone?

 

Cemetery Row Out Of Hand

Heralds opinion column sides with protesters?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Latest News at Torbay

04/01/08

Torquay cemetery featured on Australian website. The condition of a grave in Torquay cemetery has been placed on an Australian website by a distraught relative. The grave was paid for in "perpetutity" in 1940 This should mean that the council maintains it for 100 years - the length of time the fee was paid for. This includes keeping the grave tidy and weed free. Travis Burnell was horrified to see the condition of his family grave. As you can see by the picture on his website (sent to him by the cemetery!!!) they had to clear some of the weeds away to even find the grave. Torbay Council has let us down again. Seems our councillors have spent his money on other things (Pay rises for themselves again maybe?) Click here to see the site.


Pictures

(12/04/07)

6/04/07

Torbay Council Desecrate Graves For Easter. Graves have been desecrated again by council workers. One member of the group has reported that plants have been removed from graves and grass seed scattered over the area. Seems a very strange thing to do when they are not capable of cutting the grass they already have! - Why plant more grass on graves that are well cared for and looked after. Obviously a cared for grave is an embarrassment to the council so they will not be happy until they turn cared for graves into the same uncared for mess of the rest of the cemetery.

10/01/07

Double Standards. Torbay Council is still implementing double standards. Torquay Cemetery and Paignton Cemetery are both supposed to be "Lawned Cemeteries" But grave owners at Paignton are "Unofficially being allowed to plant graves full length with plants, chippings and kerb stones. Whereas in Torquay this is still not allowed. How can the council justify the double standards? Either enforce the rules in both cemeteries or not at all. It is unfare on the families in Torquay that they are not being allowed to show their grief on the grave in the same way as the Paignton mourners are.

27/02/06

Dr James Behrens, the Chancellor of the Diocese of Leicester, has ordered Leicester City council to pay a repair bill of more than £20,000 for headstone laid flat in local cemeteries. Torbay Council claims they "have done nothing wrong" The circumstances are the same and Torbay council should be made to pay the bill. Only a minority of owners were informed (the council will not admit how many!), These stones were laid flat without permission from owners

30/07/05

 

MP Anthony Steen said yesterday: "In the case of cemeteries the council should leave well alone. What they are doing is fiddling while Rome burns.

"I really can't understand what they are up to and this, on top of everything else they have done, has made Torbay a national laughing stock."

 

 

Paignton mourners to join the group

(17/02/05)

 

The news from the last working party meeting has angered and upset mourners at Paignton who are now to join the protest group. The group is now to be know as the TORBAY Grave Yard Protest Group to reflect the ongoing problems we face with this uncaring and cruel council now that they are fully intent on vandalising the grave all around the bay.

 

 

Working Party Report

(18/12/04)

 

The council having asked for residents views on 14 Dec 2004 sat down at the Town Hall on 17 Dec 2004 for their latest working party meeting. Input from the public was item No.4 on the agenda. Before they reached item No.4 they decided that:

 

They cannot pay a Stonemason to repair and properly reinstate any damaged headstones as the stones are not council property. However, they can convert them to Monoliths (dig a hole and bury them one third of their height) and, that is what they intend to do over the next 3 months.

 

This was decided because currently the council has to pay rental of £5.00 per month, per clamp on each headstone. (£5.00 x 400 headstones x 10 months equals £20,000.00 of tax payers money wasted so far!)

 

Next the councillors decided that grave owners that were not obeying the planting rules had been given enough time and now the council would would start to take legal action to enforce the rules.

 

The councillors had just returned from a visit to Paignton cemetery and debated the fact that there was still a part of this cemetery that had escaped the 2 foot planting rule and now was the time to start enforcing it. The grave owners that are still planting their graves out full length are now about to receive letters to tell them that they cannot do that anymore.

 

The Herald Express story about tendering out the care of the cemetery to private companies was a rumour and unlikely to happen.

 

The working party all agreed that the cemetery is looking good and that they should not allow a minority to spoil the appearance!

 

Tyre marks all over grave

 

Finally they got to the public consultation. Letters and emails were quickly flicked through and dismissed. They all agreed that everything had been covered and there was nothing to discuss further.

 

The Chairman of the cemeteries working party stated on 14 Dec, "We are very keen to get as much feedback as possible from the public and from professional people as we carry out our review of the service. For example, the issue of how much people should be allowed to place plants and other items on their loved ones' graves is a very sensitive one and we are doing our best to seek a satisfactory solution".

 

Why did they ask for residents opinions on planting when they were obviously not prepared to discuss it further? They were also not prepared to discuss further the issue of the total disrespect of walking on a grave or driving a mowing vehicle over it! (So much for the sensitivity!)

 

 

 

Stonemasons Incompetent

(01/09/04)

The council have been quoted in the Herald express as saying "Unfortunately, many of the headstones have been found to be unsafe, due to their incorrect installation." - Does this mean that they are suggesting all Stonemasons in the area are totally incompetent?

Has any of the local Stonemason got any comments on this? Please let us know.

 

The Laying Of The Headstones

(16/08/04)

Surely now that the stones have been laid down they are now taking up more than the 2 foot allowed? breaking the councils rules on how big an area can be used for planting or the area taken up by a headstone. How will they manage to cut the grass now?

Disrespectfully Layed Stone

Will these flowers continue to grow?

They have even put them upside down so that you cannot read the inscription - Still total disrespect!

Stones laying down

At least they have left the grass cuttings on!!

More flattened stones

Doesn't it make you feel proud of our cemetery?

 

Passed the test!!

This one has passed all the safety tests and is perfectly ok!!

Maybe the Stonemason set it up like this for a reason?

Links to other sites and newspapers.

 

Cemetery Desecrated by local council

Council Pays Out For A Grave Mistake
A Woman has won her battle for compensation after the city council laid her mother's gravestone flat without telling her.

 

Action Dropped In Graves Row
Toppled headstones in Atherstone Cemetery are being reinstated now a landmark legal action against the town council has been dropped.

 

Stonemasons Report

Report on the headstone damaged by council contractors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Old links from Torbay

 

 

Graveyard Demo May Be Repeated

 

Are Graves That Dangerous?

 

Cemetery To Get Camera Cover?

Dicing with death in the cemetery.

 

Tears Shed Over Grave 'Desecration'

 

Gravestone Peril Came As A Shock To The Council
 

Warning Signs 'Better Than Dead Children'

Why are children running wild in the cemetery in the first place?

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Relatives Anger At 'Desecration' Of 200 Gravestones

 

Inquiry Into Cemeteries

 

Spotlight To Fall On Cemeteries Policy

 

Water Supply Turned Off

Grave Mistakes

 

Graveside Storm Still At Deadlock

 

Wasting Money

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Headstone Damaged By Clamping?

(27/08/04)

Damaged Headstone

This stone allegedly has had the book part of the stone snapped off by the clamp being bound too tight.

Torquay widower Mr Algar is now considering going to the small claims court to claim compensation to pay the £400 bill to repair the stone.

The Clamp and post has now mysteriously disappeared!!

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Picture taken before the clamp and strap disappeared.

 

 

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